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#1 Marisha Nathar


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Posted 30 July 2010 - 05:52 AM

A single flake of ash danced aimlessly down through the air and landed on Marisha?s page; she brushed it off, leaving a black smudge behind. She looked up briefly ? her broad-brimmed hat should have kept off the worst of the light ashfall ? and realised that easily an hour had slipped by without her noticing. The wind had picked up slightly, tugging gently at the stray wisps of hair that had come loose from beneath the hat. She tested the direction with a moistened finger, then shifted on the bench to turn her back to the wind and keep the book better protected. Perhaps there would be a heavier ashfall ahead, and she ought to go home now, but she was enjoying the open air for once - and she did not care to return to the apartments that she had rented just at the moment.

Taraf was standing nearby, accompanying her in his usual taciturn silence. He would speak if she spoke to him, of course, with a courteous and subservient monotone that he had adopted since they had left for Luthadel. Marisha suspected that he hated her ? that he hated all the Nathars, but her in particular. He had been kind to her when she was a little girl, but she had forced him to go with her and Nerid. She had threatened to kill him if he did not go, and she had meant it, too; she would not have left him behind alive to tell Halden where to find her. She doubted that he still saw the child she had been anymore.

Marisha left him to his own thoughts instead of trying to talk to him. She wished, despite everything, that she could trust him enough to speak to him as a friend, and that he could trust her in return. She had no others, after all, to talk to; Nerid could not understand most things, and the skaa servants were ? well, skaa; on such a vastly different level from Marisha that they could find no common ground. Nor would they have wanted to talk to her. Skaa wanted to avoid notice from nobles at the same time that most nobles did not deign to talk to them. Taraf could have been a friend, but he was not.

Books were friends that she could trust, however. Barthanes, Radin, Jestel ? they were all familiar voices that she had read many times. It was the one luxury for which she spent more money than she should have here in Luthadel: trying to reproduce her favourites from the library at the Nathar manor house. Today it was a slender volume of Deker.

All phenomena are equally susceptible of being calculated, and all that is necessary, to reduce the whole of nature to laws similar to those which were discovered with the aid of the calculus, is to have a sufficient number of observations and a mathematics that is complex enough.


#2 Lucille Deveaux

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 04:29 AM

Finally! Tea with Camille and the other noblewomen was interesting enough - or, at least it was since Lucille had nothing better to do without her friends around - but enough was enough. So the second Camille left for another training session, Lucille commandeered one of the Deveaux coaches and had herself taken to Ahlstrom square, one of her favorite books and an extra-large gray shawl in hand.

It was time to have some real fun.

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#3 Aaron Elariel


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Posted 31 July 2010 - 08:45 AM

Aaron carefully checked both directions carefully before entering Ahstrom square. He did not want a repeat of yesterday after all. Although, it might be nice to be a little distraction right now. His encounter on Kenton Street with that strange Obligator had rattled him more than a little. He wasn't too eager to return to Keep Elariel. He just knew Daerra would be furious. His mother and father would likely have words for him as well before the ball. Aaron didn't mind his family. He just didn't like the words they usually had for him. His desire to avoid going home was what led him on a carriage ride halfway across the city. And so, to avoid the cooking pot, I got looking for kettles to play with...

Luckily for him, Ahstrom Square seemed much quieter than the day before. There were no major noblemen, or, more importantly, major noblewomen, in sight. Just two minor ladies reading. One, younger but quite attractive, had the Deveaux look to her, and looked vaguely framiliar, but Aaron had never been good with names. The other, plainer by far, he was sure he had never seen before.

If only I had something to read. That would have been smart. I could have spent the whole afternoon reading. In his current state, he didn't trust himself around a pretty lady, no matter how young. Especially if she is a Deveaux. I think yesterday had enough of the Great Houses' progeny in it to last me quite nicely until the ball tomorrow.

He turned to the other woman. She really was one of the plainest noblewomen he had ever seen. Judging by her dress, she was far below his station. And thus, entirely unlikely to ever enter my circles and come back to haunt me. He sighed, and approached. He couldn't just stand around and watch the ash fall all day. Where was the fun in that?

"I'm sorry milady," he smiled as he approached her. "But it seems, unlike the other patrons of this square, I have left my reading materials behind, and thus, to releave the intense boredom of high society, I must resort instead to the art of conversation. You are not adverse to it, I hope."



#4 Marisha Nathar


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Posted 31 July 2010 - 01:12 PM

Marisha became aware shortly after that she was no longer alone in the square; two newcomers had joined her. She kept her face bent to her book, as if she had not noticed either of them yet, but her thoughts were no longer on Deker; instead she was covertly watching both the young nobles. She did not recognise either one of them, but the young man was flawlessly dressed, and the woman, while not quite as finely clad, was of at least middling rank by the glint of thread-of-gold in her skirts. A dull grey shawl was not enough to hide that.

She would not have interrupted the young woman, but her eyes did travel to the book she was holding, and wondered what it might be. Few noblewomen did spend their time reading, and she looked as if she had come prepared for the long haul. The young man simply looked a little bored ? and then, unexpectedly, his eyes focused on her and he walked purposefully in her direction. She would have expected him to engage the other young woman in conversation, but instead he addressed her.

Marisha raised her eyes, returning his smile slightly, and closed the book on her lap with one finger to mark the place. ?Of course not,? she answered pleasantly, standing to drop a neat curtsey. The smallest friendly interaction in Luthadel was of value to her, and this man was of a higher rank than she was. She was not about to send him away.

?I should be glad of some company; I have been alone since I came here.? Taraf did not count, of course. ?I daresay this ashfall keeps most inside, though it is light. You are an avid reader?? she inquired. ?Are you familiar with Deker?? It was unlikely, of course. His work on celestial mechanics might possibly be better known, but her current selection was principally on the nature of the derivative and the limit, an attempt to rigorously define and formalize - presumably Deker had meant to build on this later, but he had not lived to do so. Despite Deker?s grandiose claims, it had little practical application and in Marisha?s view was purely of interest to the mathematician.

However, it made a perfectly valid subject to begin a conversation on; if he did not know Deker, he could tell her what he did read, and they could go from there.


#5 Lucille Deveaux

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 06:40 PM

So. Lucille was to be ignored, was she? She grinned impishly, pretended to be reading, and burned tin.

... they were talking about reading! Without inviting her! How on earth could--- oh, right. Her reputation wasn't known here. Well. She'd have to do something about that.

And so she picked up her parasol and reading shawl, tucked her book under her arm, and flounced over right in time to overhear the woman mention a very familiar name.

"Pardon me for interrupting," she said to the two of them with an excited gleam in her eye, "but did you say Deker?"

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#6 Aaron Elariel


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Posted 31 July 2010 - 07:51 PM

Aaron groaned inwardly. Not only had the other noblewoman now joined them, but the two seemed to be intent on disucussing some Deker fellow he had never heard of before. Daerra was the reader in the family. Aaron had always preferred to escape from his lessons whenever possible. Why would he read about something, when he could just go do something instead?

The appearance of the other noblewoman worried him. Up close, she definately looked like a Deveaux. Prominent member or not, her status as a member of a Great House meant that he should have approached her first.

And how did she know what we were talking about? he wondered. The woman hadn't been sitting too far away, but he didn't think he had been speaking too loudly. I'm starting to think like Daerra, seeing allomancers everywhere.

Before the women could get into what he could see would be a heated discussion on this Deker fellow, he decided to fall back on propriety since he could think of nothing else to say.

"Forgive me ladies, it seems I have forgotten to introduce myself. I am Aaron Elariel. May I ask whose company I have the honor of sharing?



#7 Lucille Deveaux

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 09:38 PM

"Oh! Please forgive me. I completely forgot my manners. Lucille Deveaux," she stated with a friendly smile and just the slightest hint of a curtsy. He did outrank her, of course, if only barely. "It's a pleasure to make your acquaintance, Lord Elariel.

"And you?" she asked the unnamed woman with a smile. "I haven't had the pleasure of meeting very many other noblewomen who enjoy reading as much as I do."

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#8 Borborygmus

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 03:33 PM

Marisha caught the look of incomprehension on the young man's face, which was not unexpected after all. However, the noblewoman's prompt arrival and her excited question were much less expected. Marisha's smile widened in pleasure. Her feelings were more reserved than the other woman's, but she felt nearly as much excitement as was in Lucille's voice at this discovery. There were not very many who bothered with mathematics, still fewer who appreciated it.

She was about to reply when the nobleman introduced himself. Although she had guessed he was high noble, she had not thought to find herself speaking to the scion of a Great House. Furthermore, she knew that Lord Aaron Elariel was only one degree removed from the inheritance. It became instantly far more important to comport herself well; this was only compounded when the lady revealed herself as a Deveaux. She was not nervous - not precisely; Marisha was not usually shy or stumbling, and Lucille's interest in Deker was a common point between them that made the encounter a deal less intimidating. Still, Marisha straightened her back and stilled the impulse to brush at her skirt after she rose from the curtsey she gave first to Aaron, upon his formal introduction, and again to Lucille.

"It is an honour to meet you, Lord Aaron, Lady Lucille. I am Marisha Nathar." Her eyes flickered towards the book she had set down when she rose - Treatise on the soundness of the calculus, with some observations on elliptical functions - and back at Lucille. It would be courteous to give her attention first to Aaron, but Deker was a topic she could not ignore. Further, she had acknowledged him first, which satisfied manners, and he was evidently a reader (at least he had implied it to her) - the subject might be of interest to him regardless of whether he read Deker or not. "You are a mathematician? Or an astronomer?" she inquired of Lucille, and made the question relevant to Aaron as well by giving him her shared attention and adding, "And you, my lord?"
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#9 Aaron Elariel


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Posted 01 August 2010 - 08:11 PM

Marisha Nathar. He'd never heard of the Nathar family before. Perhaps they were more minor than he thought. Lucille Deveaux he had heard of however. Not only was she a Deveaux, but her rank was higher than he expected. If he was thinking of the right person, Lucille Deveaux was nearly his equal. What was a young woman of her rank doing out unescorted? Even Marisha seemed to have a servant to guard her. Did she not know about the rebellion? Aaron was never one for current events, but even he knew who was behind the Casuana murders.

She seems nice enought though, he thought. And pretty too. Perhaps this won't be such a mess after all. He just hoped Phyra wouldn't be showing up any time soon. He still wasn't sure how he felt about the strange woman, but he had little doubt how'd she feel if she caught him flirting.

"I'm afraid I'm not much of an enthusiast of... Deker was it? Perhaps one of you could enlighten me?" Am I an astronomer or mathematician? He hoped he could at least appear interested.



#10 Lucille Deveaux

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Posted 01 August 2010 - 09:46 PM

"I'm afraid I can't help you too much," Lucille explained. "I'm more of a philosopher myself; I never did well with more advanced mathematics. But one of my best friends in Urteau reads Deker almost religiously, so I hear his name quite a bit.

"Perhaps you can enlighten us, Lady Marisha," she suggested before bursting out in a delighted giggle. "I'd love to see the look on Winchester's face if I managed to return to Urteau quoting Deker!"

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#11 Borborygmus

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:06 PM

(OOC - Lucille's expression in reaction to the mathspew provided by her player! No characters were harmed or Godmodded in the creation of this post.)

Marisha suspected from the slight impatient tightening around Aaron's eyes that he was not, in fact, very interested in Deker. However, Lucille on the other hand was much more genuine, and so she decided Aaron was simply going to have to put up with this line of conversation for a short while. She would not inflict too heavy a dose on him, though he had asked to be enlightened - in order to really explain the treatise she was reading, she would have to go through a great deal of material which she really suspected would not be of much interest to her audience.

Her smile deepened until it was not-quite a grin. "If you want quotable Deker, my Lady, the formalized definition of the limit might do. 'Let f be a function defined on an open interval containing c (except possibly at c) and let L be a real number. The limit as x approaches c of f is equal to L. This means that for each real ε greater than zero there exists a real δ greater than zero: such that for all x with zero less than the absolute value of x minus c, which is in turn less than δ, the absolute value of f of x minus L is less than ε.'"

Lucille's expression was one of considerable confusion, and Marisha clasped her hands behind her back in a gesture that she took up unconsciously any time she was engaged in a conversation that really captured her interest. "And if you prefer something more philosophical, Deker said in his Discourses, 'Mathematics, rightly viewed, possesses not only truth, but supreme beauty ? a beauty cold and austere, like that of sculpture, without appeal to any part of our weaker nature, without the gorgeous trappings of painting or music, yet sublimely pure, and capable of a stern perfection such as only the greatest art can show. The true spirit of delight, the exaltation, the sense of being more than Man, which is the touchstone of the highest excellence, is to be found in mathematics as surely as poetry,'"

She suspected that Aaron and Lucille would be better able to respond to this.

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#12 Lucille Deveaux

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Posted 02 August 2010 - 10:51 PM

"Alas!" Lucille sighed. "Now comes the moment sure,
When words my logic can't endure
Come calling at my mind's front door,
And I can't fathom any more."

Lucille grinned. "I apologize," she said to her two new companions, though her expression said she wasn't sorry at all. "I'm a philosopher, not a mathematician. Start mentioning functions, and I become lost in poetry. It drove my tutors mad."

((OoC: Yes, that was original and completely off-the-cuff. I have no idea where it came from, but it was fun to write. XD))

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#13 Marisha Nathar


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 02:54 AM

This time Marisha did laugh, a low chuckle. She could not help it. Something about Lucille's honest (if admittedly nonsensical) attitude put her more at her ease, despite the presence of the other man as well. It also gave her the impulse to be slightly impish herself.

"But you cannot escape mathematics, even in poetry. For example, each line of your poetical answer has eight syllables, in an iambic meter - alternating unstressed and stressed. A mathematical pattern. Furthermore, you have chosen a planar rhyme scheme, in other words the rhymes do not intersect. We could represent your poem as a regular polygon - a rectangle. Each side corresponds to a line of the poem. Thinking of it this way, we observe that the second Catalan number determines how many possible planar rhyme schemes you could have chosen - only two as it happens, as we are only dealing with a very short poem."


#14 Aaron Elariel


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 05:19 AM

They're both mad. Absolutely bonkers! Somehow they had gone from something about limits to... poetry? And then something about rectangles? Nonetheless, he made sure to nod once and while, to make sure the kept talking. The longer he kept the conversation going, the more time he had before he had to return home. But would home be any worse than this?

"I..." started Aaron. What do I say to that? He noticed his comment had brought both women's attention on him. A pity, for a moment he had hoped the two would go on pretending he wasn't there. Think of something to say you fool! "I..." Well that certainly wasn't anything. "I..." Out the distant sky, something caught his eye, despite the light ash fall. It was the pinacle of Kredik Shaw. "...Sometimes wonder if the Lord Ruler is something of a mathmetician," he finished. What? "After all," he continued. I might as well go with it. "There are ten great houses, ten dominances, if you count to Southern Islands, and ten allomantic metals, of course. Three tens multiplied together.." He silently blessed his math tutor for teaching him the trick of counting zeroes, "Makes a thousand, yes? And as we all know, Kredik Shaw is the Hill of a Thousand Spires." He crossed his arms thoughtfully, feeling absolutely ridiculous. Nevertheless, he flashed them his most charming smile. Might as well try to make them laugh."Seems to me, he must be quite the numbers man, to design a universe with such... symmetry."



#15 Lucille Deveaux

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:15 PM

"Why, you're right!" Lucille mused. "The Lord Ruler truly is quite the artist, to have conceived such a thing. Of course," she added, "my cousin might argue that House Vanuter has the potential to disrupt that, and launch some sort of in-depth discussion on it, but politicking is Camille's forte, not mine. I am of the opinion that there's a certain poetic nature to the Lord Ruler's symmetry, don't you think?"

And also your ability to come up with that off the cuff, Lucille noted with a playful grin. I saw that dumbfounded expression. You're either lucky, or this will be more fun than I thought.

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#16 Aaron Elariel


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 08:54 PM

Politics. If I had wanted to speak of that I would have gone home! At least he finally knew what she was talking about. His father and Daerra had made sure of that.

"You think Vaunter will gain a Keep so soon? I had heard rumours Lord Lian was building power, but it takes a lot to build a keep." Aaron frowned thoughtfully. Perhaps Daerra could use the information, perhaps she couldn't. At least he would have something to give her besides his goof with the obligator. Perhaps she knows something, we wondered idly. It was improbable. She seemed young to have access to a good informant, but who knew how House Deveaux handled the flow of information? I can't appear to interested, she might close up.

"Of course, the Great Houses change all the time. Who is to say when Vaunter rises, another won't fall?" He realized what he was implying too late. "After all, the 'Eleven Great Houses,' doesn't sound nearly as good as ten" he finished lamely. Please let her take it as a joke. Talking about a Great House falling was a serious matter, and could easily be taken as a threat. If Daerra found out he had made such a blunder, he would be in trouble. "What do you think of the Lord Ruler's designs, Lady Nathar?"



#17 Marisha Nathar


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 09:48 PM

Aaron stammered in response to what Marisha had said, and Marisha felt just the very slightest sense of triumph at having put a smooth-tongued nobleman out of countenance enough to stammer. For a country girl, that was something of a small victory, and satisfying after having been ignored on the sidelines several times at social events in Luthadel, if not by Aaron, at least by his compatriots. Of course, she certainly did not want to alienate him, but she could not help her private sense of amusement.

He recovered quickly, though, impressively so, and even came up with a relevant response, pointing out the pattern of tens with a superbly charming and confident smile; she would never have thought he was uncertain about it at all if she hadn?t seen it for herself. Then Lucille turned the subject, for which she suspected Aaron was thankful ? but Marisha?s laughter was gone now. These waters were less certain. If there was one thing Marisha truly hated in Luthadel, it was the subtle dual meanings that almost everything had ? the constant dishonesty and misleading or veiled statements in every other sentence out of the mouths of the capital?s nobility. Not that she would not play their game ? she had no other choice.

She kept on smiling, as she had before. It did not seem that Aaron or Lucille were hanging double meanings to their words ? it was only idle chatter, as the rest had been. And Aaron even offered a way out of anything more serious, which she seized on quickly.

?I don?t believe he is a mathematician, actually; otherwise he would not be known as the Sliver of Infinity. He would simply be Infinity, as even fractionated infinity is still infinity, if you consider it mathematically instead of theologically. Of course, that brings up further questions. Thinking of Tancor?s diagonalization, and his conclusion that there are different sizes of infinity, one wonders whether the infinity of the Lord Ruler is greater than, for example, the infinity of the counting numbers.?

?But you?ve suffered enough, so I will let those questions alone,? she added, smiling. Though, perhaps Lucille, or Aaron if he really cared for philosophy, would actually choose to take up this thread after all. Tancor?s diagonal proof, after all, had caused quite a stir among philosophical circles. Many were violently opposed to the controversial notion of different sizes of infinity; it was after all not a very intuitive thought, and made many uncomfortable. It had gathered a great deal of opposition and even outright hatred. She could think of no other mathematician who had evoked such an emotional response.


#18 Lucille Deveaux

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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:16 PM

"I honestly don't know if I agree with Tancor or not," Lucille replied thoughtfully. "On one hand, if he's wrong, and infinity is infinity, then the Lord Ruler's infinity is exactly the same as everything else's. On the other, if Tancor is correct, then what is the Lord Ruler's infinity compared to the rest of it? I'm inclined to believe his must be larger. After all, how can you be God of a world that's bigger than you?

"By that same token, though, it's no wonder Tancor is so controversial. If you look at his theory the way I just mentioned, then it's a good thing. The Lord Ruler, our God, is bigger than the rest of the universe. But to believe Tancor is to assume that the opposite might be true: that there might be something out there more infinite than God. And that is a little more heretical than I'm comfortable with."

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#19 Aaron Elariel


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:28 PM

Why do I start conversations, when there is obviously so little I enjoy talking about? That probably wasn't true. Aaron knew he liked conversing with people. He liked it very much The conversation he was used to was just a tad... shallower than what he was experiencing today.

That said, he was glad Marisha had managed to distract Lucille. The last thing he wanted was for Deveaux to think House Elariel was plotting the downfall of another house! But he enjoyed religion even less than politics, though not as much as he detested math. Did these women not know any good jokes? Something Lucille said, caught his attention. Might as well try to prove I'm not a complete buffoon.

"I don't think that's the case at all, Lady Deveaux. The Lord Ruler has self-proclaimed himself a Sliver of infinity. A piece of a pie, if you will. There stands to reason, the rest of the pie must be out there somewhere. Some sort of greater conciousness, with which the Lord Ruler is connected to, but not necessarily bigger than, after all, what piece is bigger than the pie it came from?" Pie? I think I'm getting hungry...



#20 Marisha Nathar


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Posted 03 August 2010 - 10:55 PM

Marisha could not contradict Aaron, or suggest outright that he was wrong, but she simply couldn?t allow that statement ? even if it was philosophical ? to stand! "The curious thing about the infinite pie, however, is that a mere slice is - not larger than, but equally as large as the pie itself,? she said to Aaron. Infinity was one of Marisha's pet subjects.

She now addressed both of them, a little slowly as she considered her words. ?I think abstract mathematics cannot, in fact must not be constrained by what makes us comfortable. Tancor's proof shows us a procedure that defeats any possible mapping from the integers to the reals. No one has been able to propose a mathematical argument that successfully disproves him.?

?But while it makes for an interesting philosophical question, my Lady, I was only in jest when I wondered whether the Lord Ruler was greater than the counting numbers ? or the reals, or the integers, for that matter. I certainly cannot think of any way to create a mapping,? she said, the smile tugging at the edge of her mouth again.






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